Arelith

I want to start off saying i absolutely love the warlock changes that were made. Before the warlock changes I played an infernallist warlock to epic 23-24ish and had a feylock that was very close to epics. After the change I immediately made a few warlocks got one to early epics and one to 26 and rolled for a sweet major. In addition to this I'm currently playing a warlock to late pre epics.

Kudos to Kalo and the rest of the team.

My main complaint or idea is after looking at the cohesion of the class is in the shape shifting line. Fey at lvl 1 can wildshape and then later on get infinite polymorph self. Hags also get infinite polymorph self. But this ability isn't really upgraded through normal means outside of that. The only way that I know of to get a better form is to play abyssal lock and get the wildsurge that transforms you into a balor. I know the DMs don't want everyone running around infinitely shaped as a balor or dragon but it seems like it would be another cool niche for warlocks to go down like summoner, blaster, or support. Probably an epic feat over an infinite cast spell.

feylock gets wild shape so you can multiclass shifter. That's really all the use it should have imo. EDIT: and be a plant shaper with the most ridiculous stats in the game by far.

According to 3R PHB, warlock doesn't get any farther than hell cat shape.
But a pact specific shape in epic levels would be fun.

As far as I know, and please correct me if I'm wrong, there are no effective shape shifting builds for arcane casters. I'd love to be able to turn into a corpse or something and just maul people as a caster. Especially if it's actually effective.

Waldo52 wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:20 am As far as I know, and please correct me if I'm wrong, there are no effective shape shifting builds for arcane casters. I'd love to be able to turn into a corpse or something and just maul people as a caster. Especially if it's actually effective.

There is not currently. The spell shape shift is probably the worst 9th lvl spell because it doesn't give you fire breath or merge any of your items like druid or shifter do.

Captain_Siix wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:11 amThe spell shape shift is probably the worst 9th lvl spell

I've used the Iron Golem's carrying capacity to mine coal more times than I've cast Greater Spell Mantle