Arelith

Palemasters as of current are able to entirely hide the fact they are a palemaster and can pretend they have genuine fleshy arms.

There are a number of arm models available for male and female that allow people to just pretend they're not a palemaster and have a full, on display, functioning fleshy arm.

I think this shouldn't be allowed because it seriously mitigates one of the major downsides of the class, namely, that they have turned themselves into a pseudo-necromantic construct.

To clarify, I'm not saying they can't cover with sleeves, but they shouldn't be able to pretend to have a flesh and blood arm and masquerade as having such.

My question to the DM team, and to the playerbase is if this should be allowed?

I've attached some screenshots for reference.

Standing by the player base, this looks like an exploit.
The feat given, 'Undead Graft', already sealed the all possibility but the Arm can only be an Undead Arm.
This is not something that can actually be RPed otherwise.
Correct me if i'm wrong though.

This is absolutely an exploit and an unintended use of these models. Players doing this should be advised that they will be getting a stern talking to if they continue abusing this.

Taking Palemaster levels and the "Undead Graft" is explained well by the quote below.

PowerWord Rage wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:26 am

The feat given, 'Undead Graft', already sealed the all possibility but the Arm can only be an Undead Arm.
This is not something that can actually be RPed otherwise.

Please report instances of this to the DM team and we'll take the necessary actions.

It does feel like an exploit, and not something easy for us to even recognize when they do this. There is any way for palemasters to have their arm model locked to the skeleton arm?

DM Raven wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:45 am

This is absolutely an exploit and an unintended use of these models. Players doing this should be advised that they will be getting a stern talking to if they continue abusing this.

Hey there Raven, can we get an announcement up for anyone doing this to get their warning if they didn't read this thread?

Also with the DM team answering, I'm fine with this thread locking up.

Akzeriuth900 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:50 am

It does feel like an exploit, and not something easy for us to even recognize when they do this. There is any way for palemasters to have their arm model locked to the skeleton arm?

They'd have to lock the following arm models from palemasters left arms:

Left Forearm - 84, 83, 82, 81, 80, 79, 78, 70, 68, 65, 64, 60, 58, 57, 54, 53, 52, 50, 46, 45, 42, 38, 36, 25,
Left Bicep - 78, 63, 62, 61, 60, 59, 58, 57, 56, 55, 54, 53, 48, 44, 43, 42, 35, 34, 30, 29, 28, 26, 25, 22, 21, 18, 17

I might have missed some.

Appreciate listing this out! We'll probably get this up on an announcement soon.

Akzeriuth900 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:50 am

It does feel like an exploit, and not something easy for us to even recognize when they do this. There is any way for palemasters to have their arm model locked to the skeleton arm?

We'll explore some options to make sure this exploit is curbed.

Thanks for the input, everyone! Thread is now locked!