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Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:30 pm
by Za-Lord~s Guard

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So we have a bunch of bears that came from Alaska to the Skull Crags. If this wasn't a case of spelljammer bears getting a ride to fantasy land, they should probably be renamed since their name currently reflects a location that doesn't exist in the setting - as weird as finding something like a Yorkshire Terrier named as such in the game (though I'd rather deal with a bear than a yorkie).


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:43 pm
by Amateur Hour

While this is a more obvious example, I would put forth that there are a lot of locatives that are used commonly in Arelith descriptions that no one really pays attention to. JUST looking at foods and thinking off the top of my head:

  • port (for Portugal)

  • parmesan (for Parma, Italy), cheddar (for Cheddar Gorge, UK)...really, most cheese names

  • pasta bolognese (for Bologna, Italy)

  • tangerine (for Tangier)

  • hamburger (for Hamburg, Germany)

  • mayonnaise (for Mahón, Menorca)

  • brussels sprouts (for Brussels, Belgium)

  • turkey (for Turkey)

Where are we going to draw the line in general?


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 9:32 pm
by Takes

At proper nouns.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:42 pm
by Batrachophrenoboocosmomachia

Parmesan cheese in Arelith is named after a famous halfling cheesemonger.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:14 pm
by Paint

Trying to sanitize all real-world references from the language of the module to maintain setting integrity is an absurd notion, and while kodiak might stick out like a sore thumb, it certainly is a great indicator of the size and scale of these bears.

Side note, I briefly lived in Kodiak Alaska! It was cold and dark. I didn't see any bears.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:21 pm
by Kuma

For what it's worth I think they should be renamed.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:24 pm
by Skibbles

Maybe we can just name it a Kodak Bare instead?

Preserves the creature while not ripping off the animal kingdom or Alaska. Win win!


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:32 am
by Tarkus the dog

i say well name the bear Srboljub


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:58 am
by Rei_Jin

Call them Skull Crag bears, as that's where they're from.

Easy easy.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:52 pm
by Flower Power
Batrachophrenoboocosmomachia wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:42 pm

Parmesan cheese in Arelith is named after a famous halfling cheesemonger.

Rest in peace, Big Pappa Parmie, you cheeeeese fiend.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:16 pm
by Dr. B
Amateur Hour wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:43 pm

While this is a more obvious example, I would put forth that there are a lot of locatives that are used commonly in Arelith descriptions that no one really pays attention to. JUST looking at foods and thinking off the top of my head:

  • port (for Portugal)

Where are we going to draw the line in general?

"Port" comes from a Latin word equivalent in meaning to the modern word.

Of course, Ancient Rome didn't exist in FR so this should be deleted by OP's logic.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 4:24 pm
by Flower Power
Dr. B wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:16 pm
Amateur Hour wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:43 pm

While this is a more obvious example, I would put forth that there are a lot of locatives that are used commonly in Arelith descriptions that no one really pays attention to. JUST looking at foods and thinking off the top of my head:

  • port (for Portugal)

Where are we going to draw the line in general?

"Port" comes from a Latin word equivalent in meaning to the modern word.

Of course, Ancient Rome didn't exist in FR so this should be deleted by OP's logic.

But in the context of food & beverages, which is what Amateur Hour was saying, 'port' (or 'Port Wine') comes from Portugal. As in, 'vinho de Porto'. Wine of Portugal. Portuguese Wine. The Wine that is from Portugal. Cusco's poison.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:32 pm
by Skibbles

So all we have to do is add Portugal to Arelith, right? Problem solved.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:35 pm
by Flower Power

Only if lizardfolk become playable.

Boa tarde, amigo.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:16 am
by Party in the forest at midnight

Rename the barbarian class.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:45 pm
by Paint

A google search for the etymology of kodiak suggests that it originally comes from a word that means island. And I mean the bears are on an island so it's. IT'S NOT WRONG, I GUESS?

Edit:
I vote we rename the bears to island bear.


Re: Kodiak Bears in the Skull Crags

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:44 pm
by AddledPunster

They had Kodiak Bears in EverQuest, and those blokes weren't even on an island. They were in a forested valley, next to a bunch of halflings.

I say, if it works for EverQuest, it works for Arelith. Keep 'em Kodiak!

Or don't, I won't lose any sleep