Arelith

The issue:
After some testing it seems it's counting some feats as soft, where, from my understanding it should count as hard skill points. I could just be misunderstanding it

What I expected to happen:

After fully warding search skill is caped at 114

What actually happened:

After fully warding search skill is caped at 108

Math

Hard points
33 points in skill
05 Skill focus search
10 Epic Skill focus search
02 Trickery Domain
04 Skill Mastery
64 Hard total

and +50 from Gear and buffs for the soft cap should total hit 114

My guess is the game is counting Trickery Domain and Skill Mastery as Soft and Not hard points

I can't see anything that indicates that Skill Mastery should be granting a Search bonus.
The bonus from Trickery is, most likely, soft.

Small note, skill focus only grants +3, not +5. If Skill mastery doesn't grant +4 then you should be 6 lower than mentioned, 114 - 6 = 108, so maybe you have all the search you should have.

cornelius_4 wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:29 pm

Small note, skill focus only grants +3, not +5. If Skill mastery doesn't grant +4 then you should be 6 lower than mentioned, 114 - 6 = 108, so maybe you have all the search you should have.

On Arelith, Skill Foci grant +5

Iceborn wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:57 pm

I can't see anything that indicates that Skill Mastery should be granting a Search bonus.
The bonus from Trickery is, most likely, soft.

I believe OP is referring to the skill bonuses gained from Path of the Seeker at level 18.

Gains +2 Spot, +2 Hide, +2 Move Silently, +4 Open Lock, +4 Disarm Trap, and +4 Search at level 18.

These are indeed gained as a Soft bonus. But given how much Seekers already struggle, wouldn't you agree it's intended that they gain these as a hard bonus?

Also, it seems an oversight that it gives +2 to Spot, but not to Listen.

Never mind, wrong path.

Okay, To be more clear
The build I'm working on is Rogue 7/Bard 20/ Eva Cleric 3

Hard
+10 From Int mod
+33 From skill points
+05 Skill focus search
+10 Epic Skill focus search
58 Total

Soft
+02 Basin Helm
+04 Dungeon-Delver's Cloak
+02 Basin Ring 1
+02 Basin Ring 2
+02 Basin Amulet
+02 Basin Belt
+06 Addy Int Bracers
+02 Basin Boots
+05 Seeker
+05 Seeker
+02 trickery Domain
+02 Good Hope
+10 Rogues Cunning
+09 Bard song
55 Total (Cap is 50)
Capping at 108

MissEvelyn wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:41 pm

cornelius_4 wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:29 pm

Small note, skill focus only grants +3, not +5. If Skill mastery doesn't grant +4 then you should be 6 lower than mentioned, 114 - 6 = 108, so maybe you have all the search you should have.

On Arelith, Skill Foci grant +5

I see, thats nice to know