Climb skill

[CorsicanDoge]

My only worry is if this is going to become needed and I'll have to shunt people off from groups because they can't invest or already are lvl 30 and don't want to relevel to put enough points into it. I don't envy the devs, because incorporating too much climb into a dungeon will just get it ignored for older dungeons but not doing anything with it will just go back to the same issue that's percieved to be the case.

It'd be neato if it was used primarily for skill monkies (read: not wizards with a fey companion) to go into secret cow levels that gives extra runic loot.

Speaking of which how much climb will the pixie have? It is the perfect familiar because it can fly.

[Hazard]

Currently my character could spend hours trying to climb up a spot, and never succeed.
Feedback: This sucks. It's bad. I hate it so much.

Hopefully the new system is better, so that you will eventually succeed.

[malcolm_mountainslayer]

Also consider removing the INT requirement from expertise. I know that might bork a few things, but beyond skillpoints that feat is the primary reason to invest in INT for non-wizards.

It definitely bork a lot! Like viable weapon master races, I don't even know if that would be a bad thing.

[Ork]

Also consider removing the INT requirement from expertise. I know that might bork a few things, but beyond skillpoints that feat is the primary reason to invest in INT for non-wizards.

It definitely bork a lot! Like viable weapon master races, I don't even know if that would be a bad thing.

I said earlier, Malcolm, that whirlwind has a INT +13 requirement. I think WM requiring 13 DEX isn't terrible. It does make you pull some points off your attack-stat.

[TimeAdept]

Expertise is mandatory, but so are skill points, so ultimately, making Expertise be takeable by sub 13 int characters won't actually change anything - since no one actually makes sub 14 int characters anyways, unless they're two-handing, in which case they never intended to take Expertise to begin with.

[Barkoneus]

I thought I saw this mentioned, but couldn't find it in the thread.

Now that Climb is live as a skill, will we be able to do a relevel to take advantage of it?

[malcolm_mountainslayer]

Also consider removing the INT requirement from expertise. I know that might bork a few things, but beyond skillpoints that feat is the primary reason to invest in INT for non-wizards.

It definitely bork a lot! Like viable weapon master races, I don't even know if that would be a bad thing.

I said earlier, Malcolm, that whirlwind has a INT +13 requirement. I think WM requiring 13 DEX isn't terrible. It does make you pull some points off your attack-stat.

Good point! No dumb Weapon masters due to whirlwind, but also opens up more "dumb martial" options as expertise is a must have for melee characters.

[Mattamue]

Does climb w/ a lasso still get +5 from good aim & exotic weapon proficiency?

[Irongron]

I thought I saw this mentioned, but couldn't find it in the thread.

Now that Climb is live as a skill, will we be able to do a relevel to take advantage of it?

No, it's too minor a skill. I made some climbing gear yesterday which when found should compensate characters for any lost ranks.

[strong yeet]

Currently, your intelligence modifier counts as bonus toward climb checks. This should probably be replaced by something like DEX mod, as it seems odd to me that the least-physically focused class (wizards) should be the best at climbing clifffs.

[Barkoneus]

I thought I saw this mentioned, but couldn't find it in the thread.

Now that Climb is live as a skill, will we be able to do a relevel to take advantage of it?

No, it's too minor a skill. I made some climbing gear yesterday which when found should compensate characters for any lost ranks.

Bummer - I definitely would have done things differently!

Currently, your intelligence modifier counts as bonus toward climb checks. This should probably be replaced by something like DEX mod, as it seems odd to me that the least-physically focused class (wizards) should be the best at climbing clifffs.

Agreed. While INT certainly could play somewhat of a role, seems like DEX is clearly the most important stat here.

[Hazard]

I thought I saw this mentioned, but couldn't find it in the thread.

Now that Climb is live as a skill, will we be able to do a relevel to take advantage of it?

No, it's too minor a skill. I made some climbing gear yesterday which when found should compensate characters for any lost ranks.

Just curious, but will this climbing gear be something casters can use, like a rope/ladder or will it be equipped gear?
Wondering because switching in climbing gear would mess up a spellbook.