LurkingShadow wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:11 am
Yma23 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:27 am
LurkingShadow wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:15 am
I do not agree, I see it as a "gentleman rule" that many agree to slavery out of that. Just being suitable ICly. Or the scenario of "Kidnapped your girlfriend, become a slave or she will!" scenario has happended. How do you handle that? When third party effects it?
That's really not been my experience with it. Speaking personally at least, there's characters where I'd absolutly take the option, and charcters where - no matter what, I wouldn't. It really varies from concept to concept, and also from situaiton to situation. I think that's the case for a lot of players. I'd hope/expect the UDers understand that too.
But if you think that the entire reason for any slavery roleplay is this gentlemans agreement, why not simply roleplay it out? Emote putting a collar on the pc, ask them to rp as if they are a slave? Same thing right? I mean some folk argue that our current system would work just as well if purely done through rp (not sure I agree but...)
Anyway, I like the system well enough, and I've actually no objections to seeing it on the surface in theory, but I don't like the idea of it being added there 'to make things equel' - I think the issue is more complex than that.
I simply see it as a system to undermine the surface by taking people below to curse, collar or what not. When the system is barely there for doing much to the Underdark characters on the surface, This along with some very overpowered ships creates ain mechanical imbalance. Roleplay or not, the imbalance is there, You cannot deny this.
So here's something really important to consider.
The sheer population of the Underdark, VS those who oppose the underdark, is absolutely hilarious.
Any time an Underdark raid is found out about, it's possible a group of 5-10 will end up facing off against 30-60.
It's not about mechanical balance. It's also about story and RP. So yeah. People are willing to go along with the RP, and that's great. Stigmatizing people for doing so, or suggesting there's some like, situation where the UD is stealing all the people on the surface below is kind of crazy. There's entire groups dedicated to freeing certain people who are captured, it's in their RP.
Figure out ways to deal with it ICly. If you had the ability to 'forcefully' remove players from the UD into prison work camps, the UD would be empty, and beyond that, would probably be constantly raided and unable to defend themselves. Which isn't fun RP for them, and makes it kind of boring above without real antagonists to consider/worry about.
Or just be evil and go to Sibayad and clamp them there. Just don't expect other civil people or cities to like you.