Archers are very powerful

[Drowboy]

Divine dips is a symptom.
Basic QoL isn't.

[Sockss]

The previous 2 posts may have been placed in the wrong thread.

[DM Rex]

Real talk: UMD reverts aren't coming.

[AstralUniverse]

Someone send me the most broken archer PvP build. The most sure-fire way to get something nerfed is if I spend time trying to level it

Disclaimer: I might be trolling.

Elf
STR: 14
DEX: 10
CON: 12
WIS: 17 (26)
INT: 14
CHA: 16

01: Ranger(1): weapon focus: longbow, elf, {Dual Wield}
02: Ranger(2)
03: Ranger(3): zen archery
04: Paladin(1): WIS+1, (WIS=18)
05: Paladin(2): {Smite Evil}
06: Paladin(3): power attack
07: Arcane Archer(1)
08: Arcane Archer(2): WIS+1, (WIS=19)
09: Arcane Archer(3): improved crit
10: Arcane Archer(4)
11: Arcane Archer(5)
12: Paladin(4): WIS+1, divine might, (WIS=20)
13: Arcane Archer(6)
14: Arcane Archer(7)
15: Arcane Archer(8): blind fight
16: Arcane Archer(9): WIS+1, (WIS=21)
17: Paladin(5)
18: Paladin(6): called shot
19: Paladin(7): bonus wisdom 7th pally (WIS=22)
20: Paladin(8): WIS+1, (WIS=23)
21: Paladin(9): epic weapon focus: longbow
22: Paladin(10)
23: Paladin(11)
24: Paladin(12): WIS+1, epic lore, (WIS=24)
25: Paladin(13)
26: Paladin(14): bonus wisdom 14th pally (WIS=25)
27: Paladin(15): epic discipline
28: Paladin(16): WIS+1, (WIS=26)
29: Ranger(4)
30: Ranger(5): epic spot, Epic Prowess

56 ab
+5 weapon modifier
damage from the build: +5 magical (divine favor), +5 physical (AA), +9 divine might., +2 physical from lvl 4th archer. (slightly higher damage than pure ranger, for comparison).

[the grim yeeter]

Real talk: UMD reverts aren't coming.

A player can only dream.

[NauVaseline]

they really don't need a nerf IMO, and are pretty easy to defeat if you know what you're doing

[Aelryn Bloodmoon]

Real talk @the people who think that archers are strong because of the free feats:

1: Equivalent level fighter gets more feats.
2: Archers get the exact same amount of feats as regular rangers, plus ammo crafting.
3: Archers are strong because they hit everything, but if you change that they're a terrible archer.
4: Removing bonus feats won't make Archers less likely to hit everything, it'll just make ranger a non choice for any AA build that isn't aiming for a divine build, which is the crux of what you're trying to prevent and will still happen (which if you prevent will just be bard paladin aa instead.)