Barbarian Rage Damage Bonus not applied to Unarmed Fist

[GoboJenkins]

I have been wanting to try out the stock "Savage" build for some time. I'm building an unarmed fist barbarian. I feel like the damage bonus from Con over 17 should apply to unarmed fist. It only applies to weapons at this point. Is this intended or incidental due to tool-set limitations? Thank you for your time.

[Shadowy Reality]

I can tell you for a fact that when Mithreas did the first Barbarian rework it was intended that damage bonus did not apply to fists.
I don't know if when the second iteration on Barbarians was done if the team did so explicitly too or simply used what was already there.

[GoboJenkins]

Is there any info on the why? I just want to understand.

[GoboJenkins]

I am finding it quite fun building a different kind of unarmed combatant.

[Archnon]

My guess is it was never considered because you can't cross barb and monk and most players won't play unarmed without monk.

[GoboJenkins]

I was/am hoping that because of the limitations (at the time) of the toolset they were able to make effects on weapons held at the time of effect ( rage). But gloves are not considered in that, so maybe there is a new ability to edit effects and I hoped they might be able to add that in. I'm still hoping to see if that can be changed. Should I put this in some request board or ??

[Shadowy Reality]

I have been studiously avoiding empowering bar brawlers that wrassle Dragons...

That is the relevant quote from the old Barbarian thread.

[Biolab00]

I have been wanting to try out the stock "Savage" build for some time. I'm building an unarmed fist barbarian. I feel like the damage bonus from Con over 17 should apply to unarmed fist. It only applies to weapons at this point. Is this intended or incidental due to tool-set limitations? Thank you for your time.

"The damage bonus will only apply to the melee weapon you have equipped at the moment of raging. The only non-melee weapon that will benefit from the Rage are throwing axes. Unarmed attacks do not benefit from the increased damage." Directly copied from arelith wiki.

While your subject topic title indicate "Barbarian Rage Damage Bonus not applied to Unarmed Fist" This is clearly not a bug because it's never meant to apply to Fist.

On reading your post, you didn't mentioned Rage at all but question on the damage bonus from Con. "Barbarians get bonus physical damage based on their Constitution score, as long as they are wielding a melee weapon or throwing axes" Copied from Arelith wiki.
All bonus damages must be wield with weapon.

This clearly isn't a bug. More like a feedback, suggestion instead.

[GoboJenkins]

I did originally think it was a bug created by the tool set. The tool set as it was that did not allow them to put the bonus on unarmed fist. I didn't think this obscure idea of an unarmed fist barbarian was anything that would threaten the balance of the game enough to actually put things in place to nerf it, but hey, this is thier server and thier rules. Its all in the RP, I am still enjoying this Unarmed Fist barbarian. It just may not be as viable as a build at it could be. When the H E double hockey sticks hits the fan I pop on a 2 hand weapon and punch rage. The notes in the build I am trying to work off mention using a shield as well tho that does not seem to fit with the RP I am developing.