Inception of Nightmares

[Alantar]

I understand that this object was created with Shadowmages in mind, so perhaps it should be usable by all of them in spite of their allignment (since they can be Neutral too).

[Shrouded Wanderer]

I believe, and I could be wrong, the evil prereq is to get more players to actually mechanically choose evil alignment.

Too many people mechanically choose neutral for their evil chars to avoid smite.

[Hunter548]

I believe, and I could be wrong, the evil prereq is to get more players to actually mechanically choose evil alignment.

Too many people mechanically choose neutral for their evil chars to avoid smite.

I really doubt this is the case, given that smiters haven't been a Thing on the server in several years.

[Archnon]

I believe, and I could be wrong, the evil prereq is to get more players to actually mechanically choose evil alignment.

Too many people mechanically choose neutral for their evil chars to avoid smite.

I really doubt this is the case, given that smiters haven't been a Thing on the server in several years.

Perhaps that is because no one plays evil characters ...

[Hunter548]

I believe, and I could be wrong, the evil prereq is to get more players to actually mechanically choose evil alignment.

Too many people mechanically choose neutral for their evil chars to avoid smite.

I really doubt this is the case, given that smiters haven't been a Thing on the server in several years.

Perhaps that is because no one plays evil characters ...

No, it's because smiters kind of suck to play regardless of how many evil characters there are. They're awful for PvE, have huge late-blooming problems, are feat starved as hell and even if you're up to your groin in evil characters, every PvP boils down to "full buff while hoping you don't die, then unload a double-smite on someone in the hope you instantly delete them and that they don't have more than one friend".

[Shrouded Wanderer]

I could get into the specifics of smite builds doing well over maximum health in one hit with current builds but I wont. I believe the reason why we see a lot of evil specific aligned items is because there is a lack of mechanically evil PCs I believe smite is a big reason for this but as somone who plays as evil aligned, with other evil aligned players I can tell you that many of them choose neutrality as it is more optimal.


I uave no evidence that this is the actual balancing case, but its my assumption based on my own anectdotal observations.

[Seven Sons of Sin]

I could get into the specifics of smite builds doing well over maximum health in one hit with current builds but I wont. I believe the reason why we see a lot of evil specific aligned items is because there is a lack of mechanically evil PCs I believe smite is a big reason for this but as somone who plays as evil aligned, with other evil aligned players I can tell you that many of them choose neutrality as it is more optimal.


I uave no evidence that this is the actual balancing case, but its my assumption based on my own anectdotal observations.

Should probably report people who are intentionally doing this out of mechanical convenience.

[-XXX-]

Hunter548 is right, the payoffs for a smiter build pale in comparison to the tremendous sacrifices they need to make in order to get there.

Essentially you'll end up with a messed up melee build outclassed by pretty much everyone in virtually everything only to obtain a niche 3x/day ability that can be countered by a lvl 2 arcane spell.


I don't think that smite evil is much of a consideration when people pick the alignment of their characters. Besides, alignment is supposed to be a dynamic stat to an extent. DMs can tweak it when necessary.

[Ork]

As a former smiterdin player, don't do it.

[Scraps]

Neutral is still a mechanical advantage to evil. -Especially for Shadowmage. Someone needing to ward both Protection from Evil and Protection for Good to get the full bonus to saves against you is just off the top of my head.

I don't see why this can't cut both ways, Shar is a evil god at the end of the day and the Clothing Piece in question should -probably- be Evil only.