Can we please make our own items on PGCC again?

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Tarkus the dog
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Can we please make our own items on PGCC again?

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I find myself using Arelith PGCC often lately and every time I want to test a character I need to do the > get the weapon > get the masterly rune > use the masterly rune once > confirm that you wanna use it > put the weapon in the basin to add the keen property > run to the alchemist table and make temp + perma essence > essence the weapon once > essence the weapon twice JUST to see the build's average damage. It would save people a lot of time if they could edit whatever they want as they used to be able to. Why was this removed in the first place? Realistically you can't even fully test a non-transfered character because you can't get the gear you want ( unless you're willing to sit there 5%ing your PGCC character's gear ) which defeats the whole point of Pretty Good Character Creator.

Not to mention QoL features like quick rest, pray reset, CD reset etc. not existing. One time I was just messing with Cavalier class and some guy walks up to me fully buffed ( obviously a cleric ) going " hey come fight me". What kinda fight are you looking for, my 0 gear + 0 items + 0 consumables character vs your cleric who just needs to press sanctuary button and fight? Not a very realistic way to see if you like your build really.

I know PGCC is not really there on the priority list but just letting people make their own stuff like they used to be able to would go a long way when people are testing builds.
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Re: Can we please make our own items on PGCC again?

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No, the intention is not to reintroduce that feature.

The PGCC has plans down the road and this is not part of it.

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Re: Can we please make our own items on PGCC again?

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i asked about this two years ago and was given the same answer

last i heard, there were some intentions to make the pgcc function like an arena server. i think that'd be really cool.

in its current state, it's very limiting in what can be tested. it is missing out on things like +5 lore rings (a staple in many builds to use wof scrolls) and, for that matter, umd. since people can't make items without delevelling (since they're given the minimum amount to level), umd items can't be made.

the dwarf and anvil (what allowed people to make items from scratch) did have flaws. people made OP items like helmets with +20 deflection and trolled people trying to test things in the arena; however, it's possible now to have private arenas, so people like this can't interfere.

i understand that not many people work/maintain the PGCC and am grateful for what it does currently offer. i just think that the ability to properly test things is hampered with the inability to make many necessary items. it would also help for when new items are introduced to live but not the PGCC, because people would be able to replicate them via the dwarf/anvil.

i'm not suggesting that it remain forever. whatever changes are in store for the PGCC will likely account for all of the above issues. i just think it'd be nice to have in the interim.
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Re: Can we please make our own items on PGCC again?

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As mentioned, this isn’t something that I’m keen on placing back.

I am in the works of updating the PGCC palettes, writing some code to eliminate the helper NPCs. I had asked for a list of what was missing and people were eager to help. But nothing was presented to me, so I need to piece it together.

What would make PGCC updates easier is having every item in the game in the palette. That way it’s just a matter of adding it in and not rebuilding them all.

So stay tuned.

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