Spellsword ele strike + small stature still does not fully stack
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Spellsword ele strike + small stature still does not fully stack
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Spellsword elemental strike's +hard INT modifier to AB does not seem to stack with small stature AB
Steps to reproduce
make a small stature character - a kobold, in my case. be a spellsword. have hard INT of 18, use elemental strike on - anything.
Expected result
you get +4 to AB on elemental strike attack.
Actual result
you get +3 instead, despite your hard INT mod being +4.
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Underdark
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Spellsword elemental strike's +hard INT modifier to AB does not seem to stack with small stature AB
Steps to reproduce
make a small stature character - a kobold, in my case. be a spellsword. have hard INT of 18, use elemental strike on - anything.
Expected result
you get +4 to AB on elemental strike attack.
Actual result
you get +3 instead, despite your hard INT mod being +4.
Screenshot(s)
Which Server(s)?
Underdark
Gaming Platform(s)?
PC
Re: Spellsword ele strike + small stature still does not fully stack
for clarity - i checked it today, and it was still an issue.
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Re: Spellsword ele strike + small stature still does not fully stack
You are getting the size bonus, but it applies to your opponent's AC, so it's invisible in the combat log :)
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Re: Spellsword ele strike + small stature still does not fully stack
That would still mean the AB should go from 19 to 23, if it's 4 from int elestrike. Not 22.
The size bonus is invisible, but of course it is invisible in the first strike as well, meaning that 19 is with size all right.
Int 18 means mod 4, and since it increases by that amount, 19 + 4 = 23.
It might not have anything to do with size, but nevertheless, it's wrong.
The size bonus is invisible, but of course it is invisible in the first strike as well, meaning that 19 is with size all right.
Int 18 means mod 4, and since it increases by that amount, 19 + 4 = 23.
It might not have anything to do with size, but nevertheless, it's wrong.
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Re: Spellsword ele strike + small stature still does not fully stack
The regular attack with 19AB includes the size bonus in the attack roll rather than lowering the target's AC by 1. It's basically 18+1. Meanwhile, Elemental Strike with 22AB doesn't show this +1AB, but rather reduces the target's AC accordingly. It is therefore exactly 4 higher than the regular attacks would be if the size bonus was invisible for them (22 = 18 + 4).mourisson1 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:14 pmThat would still mean the AB should go from 19 to 23, if it's 4 from int elestrike. Not 22.
The size bonus is invisible, but of course it is invisible in the first strike as well, meaning that 19 is with size all right.
Int 18 means mod 4, and since it increases by that amount, 19 + 4 = 23.
It might not have anything to do with size, but nevertheless, it's wrong.
In case anyone's curious why I didn't simply increase the AB by one: It's because, according to my testing, the attack bonus of regular attacks displayed in the combat log doesn't increase when attacking a dragon as a medium-sized char. If Elemental Strike increased AB based on size rather than (effectively) lowering the opponent's AC, you'd suddenly see Elemental Strikes at 6 higher AB than your usual attacks (rather than 4), and we'd possibly get a similar bug report titled "Spellsword ele strike AB too high".
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Re: Spellsword ele strike + small stature still does not fully stack
I'd probably note that somewhere to avoid dealing with more bug reports in the future
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Re: Spellsword ele strike + small stature still does not fully stack
Probably the wiki, if so.
NWN is very interesting to work with at times. Even for small characters the game only adds a maximum of +1AB in the combat log when attacking larger targets. For every size category beyond medium, the bonus is then applied to the target's AC rather than the attacker's AB. I've streamlined things a little because it'd make the code unnecessarily convoluted. Future generations of Arelith devs might thank me :D
NWN is very interesting to work with at times. Even for small characters the game only adds a maximum of +1AB in the combat log when attacking larger targets. For every size category beyond medium, the bonus is then applied to the target's AC rather than the attacker's AB. I've streamlined things a little because it'd make the code unnecessarily convoluted. Future generations of Arelith devs might thank me :D
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Re: Spellsword ele strike + small stature still does not fully stack
Good to know, thanks for explanation
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