Hello!
I would just like to feedback on the recent names changes.
Personally, I really enjoyed the creative titles we had before for them.. 'Ballad of the Dragonslayer', 'Waltz of the Magical Masquerade', 'Strings of the Weave' and 'Watcher's Vigil', especially.
I wonder if anyone else feels the same way? The name changes doesn't really explain much better what each song does and certainly not to the detail needed to understand them.
Bard Song Names
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Re: Bard Song Names
I would agree that the new song titles are quite underwhelming and remain as vague as they were originally.
The change in the song menu is less detailed and no longer explains how to Teach Songs and Curse Songs. If we could simply instead have a selection option in that menu that offers "Details", or a description of what a song does like we have for traditional spells that would be much better.
The songs on the Bard wiki are still displaying the old titles without updated numbers as well, making a few songs with more drastically changed titles harder to locate and determine if they are useful.
In regards to race-specific songs. I would like to see a slight expansion to innate racially known songs. One example being with Yuan-ti and the Drow song, Oozing Orchestra. The Ballad of the Dragonslayer being an Avariel song certainly makes sense, but there are numerous other special reward races that could use a little love for accessibility and being able to teach.
The change in the song menu is less detailed and no longer explains how to Teach Songs and Curse Songs. If we could simply instead have a selection option in that menu that offers "Details", or a description of what a song does like we have for traditional spells that would be much better.
The songs on the Bard wiki are still displaying the old titles without updated numbers as well, making a few songs with more drastically changed titles harder to locate and determine if they are useful.
In regards to race-specific songs. I would like to see a slight expansion to innate racially known songs. One example being with Yuan-ti and the Drow song, Oozing Orchestra. The Ballad of the Dragonslayer being an Avariel song certainly makes sense, but there are numerous other special reward races that could use a little love for accessibility and being able to teach.
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I also enjoyed the previous song titles, and felt they added more of an identity to each piece.
The recent change was made in good faith, but I think we lost something along the way to make them more universal and clear.
The recent change was made in good faith, but I think we lost something along the way to make them more universal and clear.
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A few things:
The song dialog was a 10 minute job between a break and my current major project, I will be revisiting it to offer more information and such in game.
The song names were made generic to encourage some unique name rp, not just to be easier to know the purpose. Not all songs will be known by or share the same name in such a broad setting, especially not between races.
If you liked the original then continue to refer to them as that and produce rp around the song, explaining it or how your character perceives it and why they call it what they do.
The song dialog was a 10 minute job between a break and my current major project, I will be revisiting it to offer more information and such in game.
The song names were made generic to encourage some unique name rp, not just to be easier to know the purpose. Not all songs will be known by or share the same name in such a broad setting, especially not between races.
If you liked the original then continue to refer to them as that and produce rp around the song, explaining it or how your character perceives it and why they call it what they do.
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Re: Bard Song Names
Going to defend the team here. I think the changes toward brevity and removing some of the diety and world-view references are helpful. I know exactly what I'm getting when I press the pilfering poem button. And who doesn't like alliteration? Its also noob friendly, and Arelith has a notoriously high learning curve.
Now...ask me about the language names changes to fr canon, which I still need a flow chart for...
Now...ask me about the language names changes to fr canon, which I still need a flow chart for...
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Re: Bard Song Names
RedGiant wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:11 pm Going to defend the team here. I think the changes toward brevity and removing some of the diety and world-view references are helpful. I know exactly what I'm getting when I press the pilfering poem button. And who doesn't like alliteration? Its also noob friendly, and Arelith has a notoriously high learning curve.
Now...ask me about the language names changes to fr canon, which I still need a flow chart for...
Just to be that guy, Pilfering Poem was one of the only songs that didn’t change name except with the change of the ‘s’ to Poems.
I guess it doesn’t really matter if one can create their own name versions, but then you could argue the same about changing them in the first place with that logic.