Instant Ability kill blows not trigger Cleave

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Helsing
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Instant Ability kill blows not trigger Cleave

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Description
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Instant Ability like Charge, Whirling Attack kill blows cannot trigger cleave. Haven't checked other instant abilities but I think they use same logic

Steps to reproduce
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Kill some mob with Whirling Attack or Spirit Charge ON.

Expected result
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Trigger Cleave/Great Cleave.

Actual result
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Not triggered.

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PGCC.

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Last edited by Helsing on Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Hazard wrote: Doing that on a non-mundane requires constant stops to rest, chugging alcohol whenever your spells start wearing off/get dispelled, and with casters, you're going to get through that dungeon once in the time a 25/5 can get through it 10+ times.
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Re: Cavalier Spirit Charge kill blows not trigger Cleave

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I haven't played a cavalier in a while. Does the damage from spirit charge come after the actual the main damage line, or is it combined?

If so, what you'll see is a damage value show up on one line then another damage value after that. If this is the case, this is working as intended; cleave will only trigger if the death occurs from fatal damage applied by the 'weapon' itself.
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Re: Cavalier Spirit Charge kill blows not trigger Cleave

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Good Character wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:07 am I haven't played a cavalier in a while. Does the damage from spirit charge come after the actual the main damage line, or is it combined?

If so, what you'll see is a damage value show up on one line then another damage value after that. If this is the case, this is working as intended; cleave will only trigger if the death occurs from fatal damage applied by the 'weapon' itself.
Code wise maybe you are right about the extra Charge damage cannot trigger Cleave since it's not from weapon itself, but mechanically I think Charge shall be able to trigger cleave, thus I report it for dev to judge.
Hazard wrote: Doing that on a non-mundane requires constant stops to rest, chugging alcohol whenever your spells start wearing off/get dispelled, and with casters, you're going to get through that dungeon once in the time a 25/5 can get through it 10+ times.
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Re: Instant Ability kill blows not trigger Cleave

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Updated topic as it's not only Charge not work with Cleave, all instant abilities won't work with Cleave.
Hazard wrote: Doing that on a non-mundane requires constant stops to rest, chugging alcohol whenever your spells start wearing off/get dispelled, and with casters, you're going to get through that dungeon once in the time a 25/5 can get through it 10+ times.
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Re: Instant Ability kill blows not trigger Cleave

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Instant attacks were made to look and feel like regular melee attacks while actually being an entirely independent feature.
They cannot trigger cleave and similar abilities for this reason.
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