Non-Evil Assassin

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Non-Evil Assassin

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Adventurers kill people for money ever day. Yes, many of the writs are for literal monsters, but some of them like Gap of Aeons, or Kenku in Guldorand are for genuine playable surface races that are arguably no more evil than many of the targets an assassin might go after. Yes they might kill some good people, but they're as likely to be employed to mess with an evil dictator or to kill a monster.

What's baffling about the current state of affairs is that -palemasters-, those who's entire kit is based around the objectively evil act of animating the dead, can be neutral.

There is nothing inherently evil about anything in the assassin's kit; death attack isn't that different from sneak attack, rogues/druids/rangers utilize poisons, etc.

Please make it possible to play a neutral assassin, even if by reward (it is already an application only class after all).
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Re: Non-Evil Assassin

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Very cautiously approved. I personally like the idea but it needs consideration for balence and restrictions. Also note - only for Neutral - not for Good Assassins. We'd likely lock it behind an app too.
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Re: Non-Evil Assassin

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Needs re-approval.
Mechanical changes should not be approved by Dungeon Masters.

As an aside, what makes assassins evil isn't the killing of creatures or people.
It's the willingness to kill anyone or anything for money, something most adventurers aside, you guessed it, evil ones are not willing to do.
Also other classes can do Assassination, "Assassin" is the archetypical that learns a type of magic.
Vigilante, Harpers, Zhentarim are all capable in some form of the same thing in lore.

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Re: Non-Evil Assassin

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to be fair I believe I approved this when I was in admin position? And by 'needs consideration for balence and restrictions' I basically mean 'needs running past Kalopsia'. In fact looking at the timing it /might/ have already been run past Kalopsia with a 'hrum not sure' answer.
That said, I'm absolutly content for this to be relooked at and moved to rejected if the team think so. But I'm pretty sure I didn't approve this 'as a DM'.

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