Tentacle spells (Fiery tested) only check for SR on the first mini-tick

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Tentacle spells (Fiery tested) only check for SR on the first mini-tick

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Description of Bug Experienced:
When being casted on, Fiery tentacles can be spell resisted, which should stop the damage entirely from hitting (As the spell was resisted). Instead, the spell gets resisted, and the mini ticks (the multiple tentacles) still deal damage unexpetantly. Every round the spell resist goes through, and the mini ticks continue to deal damage.

Steps to reproduce the Bug:
44 SR Monk (Full epic feats) + having someone cast Fiery tentacles is the best way to see this bug first hand, though anything with high SR should get decent spell resist chance.

Expected Result:

SR should block damage (on success) as it does with fire-wall, wall of ice, Fire arrow, etc.

Actual Result:

SR succeeds, and the tentacles still damage regardless. The SR succession only stops the very first mini-tick of damage, and the other tentacles don't check SR.

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Additional Information/Notes
Other multi hit spells that are native to Nwn, Black tentacles untested, will block the spell as per usual SR rules. This seems to be a genuine bug where tentacles is not checking SR at all on the mini-ticks (the multi hit ticks.) This does not seem intentional and feels like it's an exploit work around to work around SR

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Re: Tentacle spells (Fiery tested) only check for SR on the first mini-tick

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Ah, Image URL is https://imgur.com/a/oziV63R. It seemed to have not posted.

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Re: Tentacle spells (Fiery tested) only check for SR on the first mini-tick

Post by I Believe in What you Said »

As a final note, I think what's happening here is that the tentacles that spawn from the parent cast are not coded to check for SR. We saw this bug back in 2017 ish with Spike growth doing similiar things when spawned off sight and walked into creating massive numbers (damage of 999+) due to the mini tentacles not checking for time/rounds on its target and accelerating to maximum damage output (When not visible). The difference here is that these tentacles aren't being walked into or are off screen. so it's a little bit different.

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Re: Tentacle spells (Fiery tested) only check for SR on the first mini-tick

Post by SCP-079 »

I think tentacles are intended to not check SR at all.

https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/blackTentacles.htm

https://nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Evard%27s_black_tentacles

https://wiki.nwnarelith.com/Evard%27s_Black_Tentacles

At least, it's stated that it ignores SR in all instances of the spell, both in tabletop 3.5, NWN vanilla and Arelith Wiki. If there is any SR check, then the SR check itself may be the bug (?)

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