Lightly Armored when Rogue + Seeker Cleric

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Lightly Armored when Rogue + Seeker Cleric

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The description for the path says:

Path of the Seeker
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If multiclassed to Rogue, 2/3 Cleric levels count towards specialty weapon and uncanny dodge progression (24 levels of Cleric gets +1 AB for Finessed Weapons, assuming having multiclassed 3 levels of Rogue).
Scaling for Lightly Armored feat does not apply.
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I've made a 16 Rogue/14 Cleric, and I get no bonus for the Lightly Armored feat. Shouldn't I be able to get a +4 (16/4)?
Looks like the cleric levels disable the feat.
The character got the +2AB with a longwsord, but no lighty armored bonus at all with 26 dexterity and a studded leather armor.

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Re: Lightly Armored when Rogue + Seeker Cleric

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One thing is to disable the Scaling with the cleric levels, and another is to disable the feat.
With 8 rogue levels, I've +2, and after selecting the path on level 11, it disappeared.

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Re: Lightly Armored when Rogue + Seeker Cleric

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Seems like a bug report? Maybe an admin can move this to the appropriate forums?

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Re: Lightly Armored when Rogue + Seeker Cleric

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Looks like a bug, yes.

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Re: Lightly Armored when Rogue + Seeker Cleric

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From an update last year -- around 4/17/2024 -- the lightly armored scaling was removed from Seeker. It might not have been updated on the wiki. There was a lot of back and forth on it. As much as I didn't like it because it negatively impacted one of my characters, it was necessary to rein in some runaway seeker builds. Alas.

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For clarity, what I mean is, I think lightly armored scaling is intentionally disabled when Seeker levels are present. I could be misreading what you mean, though. Shrug.

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Re: Lightly Armored when Rogue + Seeker Cleric

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I understand that the Seeker Cleric levels don't count, but what happens is that the feat gets disabled.

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Re: Lightly Armored when Rogue + Seeker Cleric

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Cabarcos wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:05 pm

I understand that the Seeker Cleric levels don't count, but what happens is that the feat gets disabled.

You're misunderstanding me. Lightly Armored scaling is disabled when Seeker levels are present. That means, if you have a single level of seeker, the scaling gets disabled entirely. This is, to my knowledge, intentional.

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Re: Lightly Armored when Rogue + Seeker Cleric

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"Scaling for Lightly Armored feat does not apply."

Then, I think that it's not explained properly in the wiki, and it leads to misunderstandings.
It should say that the ability is disabled if you have levels as a Seeker cleric.

Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: Lightly Armored when Rogue + Seeker Cleric

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Cabarcos wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:11 pm

"Scaling for Lightly Armored feat does not apply."

Then, I think that it's not explained properly in the wiki, and it leads to misunderstandings.
It should say that the ability is disabled if you have levels as a Seeker cleric.

Thanks for the clarification.

The Wiki is volunteer maintained and thus sometimes things slip through the cracks, so documentation isn't always consistent. I made a note on the Rogue page; however, the Seeker path section on the Cleric Page does already point this out.
EDIT: Correction, it points out rogue levels don't apply. I'm not entirely sure if it should be TOTALLY removing scaling entirely if a seeker level is present. This requires developer input.

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Re: Lightly Armored when Rogue + Seeker Cleric

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My educated guess is that Lightly Armored wasn't made to work because Cleric do have some rather powerful buffs they can give to their own AC. Things Mundanes do not have access to.

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