Monk Overhaul Feedback

[AstralUniverse]

On the side note, I'm thinking about moving Ki Strike to Body Practitioner (6) or even Adept (11), seeing as the current live Ki Strike 1, 2, and 3 are not obtained until Monk 10/13/16

It might be a good idea, I'm not saying otherwise. I havent looked at this class very deeply yet as I'm waiting for pgcc trial phase.

But please, lets try, at least in spirit, at least roughly, to somewhat preserve the current monk stats.

So if I now need to invest 20 monk lvls and 2 epic feats for +4 ab and +7 damage from ki progression + unarmed passive progression + ki4-5 feats. Or +7 ab and +10 damage if I am pure monk + ki4-5 invested.

I just think these stats are really balanced for a dex epic dodge monk with mind immunity and ubab (with 11~ base damage unarmed).

I just hope we can kind of preserve these stats because from rough math, no kalo sheet or pgcc to calculate with, I have a bad feeling about what is gained for new monk, going deep level investment and every ki strike feat available - the numbers look suspiciously lower. I might be wrong.

[Naghast]

I... The more i read about it the more i'm lightly confused by this monk, but, i feel like all questions will be answered the moment it hits PGCC, so i'll refrain from asking and just wait for that.

[Kenji]

Excellent Read, taken inspiration for the following changes

I will be introducing these packages along with the Monk Overhaul update for PGCC testing:
Feel free to fill in what you think the Lore Snippet should be; keep in mind that this will be displayed in the package window. In the future, I might include the Package description in the rest menu for players to review it even after the character creation.

The Old Order (Dexterity, Fist)
Ability Score: Dexterity
Discipline Priority: Body, Martial, Spirit
Skills: Tumble, Discipline, Lore
Feats: (Improved) Ki Strike, Blind Fight, (Improved) Expertise, (Epic) Weapon Focus: Unarmed, Circle Kick (15 dex), Improved Critical: Unarmed, Thousand Hand Godly Fist, Spirit Shield, Quivering Palm, Stunning Fist
Lore Snippet: ???

The Even Handed Order (Strength, Fist)
Ability Score: Strength
Discipline Priority: Body, Martial, Spirit
Skills: Tumble, Discipline, Lore
Feats: Improved Ki Strike, Blind Fight, (Improved) Expertise, (Epic) Weapon Focus: Unarmed, Circle Kick (15 dex), Improved Critical: Unarmed, Thousand Hand Godly Fist, Spirit Shield, Quivering Palm, Stunning Fist, Stance: Equipoise
Lore Snippet: ???

The Broken Ones (Dexterity, Polearm)
Ability Score: Dexterity
Discipline Priority: Martial, Body
Multiclass: Weapon Master, Fighter
Skills: Tumble, Discipline, Lore, Heal
Feats: Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, (Epic) Weapon Focus: Polearm, Blind Fight, Improved Critical: Polearm, Improved Expertise, Technique: Beggar's Staff, Stance: Equipoise
Note: Whirlwind is obtained from Martial Adept
Lore Snippet: ???

The Yellow Rose (Dexterity, Edged)
Ability Score: Strength
Discipline Priority: Martial, Body
Multiclass: Weapon Master, Fighter
Skills: Tumble, Discipline, Lore
Feats: Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, (Epic) Weapon Focus: Edged, Blind Fight, Improved Critical: Edged, Improved Expertise, Technique: Nine Sword of the Recluse, Stance: Equipoise
Note: Whirlwind is obtained from Martial Adept
Lore Snippet: ???

The Long Death
Ability Score: Dexterity
Discipline Priority: Martial, Body
Multiclass: Weapon Master, Assassin
Skills: Hide, Move Silently, Tumble, Discipline, Lore
Feats: Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, (Epic) Weapon Focus: Edged, Blind Fight, Improved Critical: Edged, Improved Expertise, Technique: Nine Sword of the Recluse, Stance: Equipoise
Note: Whirlwind is obtained from Martial Adept
Lore Snippet: ???
Note: When I make a Technique for Katars, Daggers, and Shurikens, that's when we'll make this package more Assassin-y

The Sun Soul Order
Ability Score:
Discipline Priority: Mind, Spirit
Multiclass:
Skills: Tumble, Discipline, Lore
Feats:
Lore Snippet: ???
Note: When we introduce elemental features to Mind or Spiritual discipline, that's when we'll delve into this one

The Shining Hand
Ability Score: Intelligence
Discipline Priority: Mind, Spirit
Multiclass: Wizard
Skills: Tumble, Discipline, Lore
Feats:
Lore Snippet: ???

The Dark Moon Order
Ability Score: Intelligence
Discipline Priority: Mind, Martial
Multiclass:
Skills: Tumble, Discipline, Lore
Feats:
Lore Snippet: ???

The Hin Fist
Ability Score: Dexterity
Discipline Priority: Body, Spirit, Martial
Multiclass: Earthkin Defender, Fighter
Skills: Tumble, Discipline, Lore
Feats: (Improved) Ki Strike, Blind Fight, (Improved) Expertise (13 Int), (Epic) Weapon Focus: Unarmed, Circle Kick (15 dex), Improved Critical: Unarmed, Thousand Hand Godly Fist, Spirit Shield, Quivering Palm, Stunning Fist, Stance: Equipoise, Epic Damage Reduction I-III (19 Con)
Lore Snippet: ???