Arelith

On quickly doing a -relevel my fiend pact warlock has access to Eyebite now. It successfully forces a save from mobs and they suffer the expected effects, but no eldritch blast damage. I suspect I did select it as a spell while leveling up quickly clicking from the top of the spell list as I figured the warlock script will sort things out.

Tested it on the PGCC. The warlock script seems to be "forgetting" to remove ALL of the new spells. If someone were to pick them while leveling up, they will stay in their spellbook. I have a warlock with Good Hope, Crushing Despair, Eyebite, Irresistible Dance and Nightmare on PGCC right now. None of the spells trigger blasts either. I think the script is just missing those.

Are they info infinicast spells? Might be a good time for the devs to consider adding some of them permanently to warlock and feylock!

Feylocks should 100% get Irresistible Dance and Nightmare.

Memelord wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:18 pm Feylocks should 100% get Irresistible Dance and Nightmare.

I couldn't agree more viewtopic.php?f=15&t=26064

Leveled up to 17, and got Nightmare and Eyebite in my spell list. (just spammed a bunch of spells on leveling like I always do) Thought this was intentional at first to replace summon shadow considering how much people complain about it not working well as a spell like ability instead of a spell.

Would like to recommend this sorta become a feature. Perhaps Shadow Conjuration and Nightmare could replace the shadow summon ability?

Also, if Nightmare does get added, maybe make it work without eldritch blast, since it would be more likely for a feylock to use it for RP reasons. (curse a player without revealing they are a warlock) but also because as it stands, if you hit a sleeping target with it, the eldritch blast wakes them before the spell triggers.

Is is broken across all Infi-Class classes, including Favoured Souls, as basically the orginal script was not written with the foreknowleddge of new spells.

It's been raised before, I think, but no response was given. I'd recommend checking with your friendly local DM before using new spells in case it is considered an unintentional exploit.

[I certainly agree some of these are very themeatic and should be kept.]

This is inteded.

Fey gets Nightmare, Eyebite and Irresistible Dance.

Abyssal/Infernal gets Crushing Despair

Cool, good to know thanks. (would still like to recommend removing Eldritch Blast from Nightmare however)

I've tested the new spells on PGCC, and Nightmare doesn't appear to damage sleeping creatures like it should. (Not talking about blast damage, mind - that works just fine)
Maybe just a Feylock issue, maybe a bug with the spell.

I am assuming this is because Eldritch Blast damage triggers before the spell does, so the damage wakes the target up, then Nightmare triggers and the target is no longer sleeping.

Anyone know what level warlocks get these spells? I had a look in the approved suggestion and the update thread, and couldn't find it.

Level 17. Same level they get the shadows.

Brilliant, thanks!

Edit: I'm a muppet and didn't read the early posts. Didn't see you'd already answered. Never mind, carry on.

ActionReplay wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:04 pm This is inteded.

Fey gets Nightmare, Eyebite and Irresistible Dance.

Abyssal/Infernal gets Crushing Despair

Hello ActionReplay. Is it possible for Nightmare to apply both EB and its normal damage? Since as it currently stands, it only applies EB damage. Thus there is no real reason to ever use nightmare on a feylock.

Szaren wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:54 pm

ActionReplay wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:04 pm This is inteded.

Fey gets Nightmare, Eyebite and Irresistible Dance.

Abyssal/Infernal gets Crushing Despair

Hello ActionReplay. Is it possible for Nightmare to apply both EB and its normal damage? Since as it currently stands, it only applies EB damage. Thus there is no real reason to ever use nightmare on a feylock.

15d10 spammable damage would be rediculously overpowered.

Apokriphos wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:31 pm

Szaren wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:54 pm

ActionReplay wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:04 pm This is inteded.

Fey gets Nightmare, Eyebite and Irresistible Dance.

Abyssal/Infernal gets Crushing Despair

Hello ActionReplay. Is it possible for Nightmare to apply both EB and its normal damage? Since as it currently stands, it only applies EB damage. Thus there is no real reason to ever use nightmare on a feylock.

15d10 spammable damage would be rediculously overpowered.

Not really, because each time you cast it, the foe wakes up and has to fail another Sleep will save to be affected. And if you think 15d10 (once per failed sleep will save) is ridiculously overpowered, I have some news about fiendlocks for you. The thing is, Feylocks might get Nightmare right now, but it's not doing anything since EB procs before the damage from nightmare applies.

Nightmare should still be applying the curse effect.

Hasted Sleep + Eldritch Blast + Nightmare +Eldritch Blast spam would be OP. Sure the enemy wont fail the save against sleep every time, but often enough.

Besides, I am unsure how easy it would be to cause the blast to trigger after only one spell. If they make it trigger after all spells, sleep will result in the targets being woken instantly by the blast. Tweeking it for just one spell seems potentially overly complex, and I certainly prefer the option of removing the blast entirely so that a Warlock can curse other players in public without the flashy effects and eyeglow giving them away.

Yeah I think we'll just remove the Blast from Nightmare.

ActionReplay wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:50 pm Yeah I think we'll just remove the Blast from Nightmare.

That would work as well.

Szaren wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:11 pm

ActionReplay wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:50 pm Yeah I think we'll just remove the Blast from Nightmare.

That would work as well.

Forgot to mention this should be live now

Can verify Nightmare no longer has Eldritch Blast. Thanks.