'Force Purchase of Full Stack' Option on Player-Owned Shops

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'Force Purchase of Full Stack' Option on Player-Owned Shops

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I've never once seen the option to restrict selling items in player-owned shops to full stacks be useful or wanted. Frequently I see IG notes and OOC questions about how to change your shop from forcing full-stack sales to allowing partial-stack sales.

Can we either:
1) Make it so that the standard preset when you acquire a shop is set to 'allow players to purchase partial stacks', or...
2) Remove the full stack option completely.

For the life of me I can't come up with a reason for why it exists or why it's helpful or useful at all.
Also, apologies if this seems more like a suggestion than feedback. I'm wondering if other people feel the same way, mostly! Interested in hearing some thoughts.

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Re: 'Force Purchase of Full Stack' Option on Player-Owned Shops

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Aradin wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:15 pm I've never once seen the option to restrict selling items in player-owned shops to full stacks be useful or wanted.
It is probably for situations when the seller doesn't want its store to be clogged with leftovers because somebody bought 499 arrows out of 500.
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Re: 'Force Purchase of Full Stack' Option on Player-Owned Shops

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Void wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:15 pm
Aradin wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:15 pm I've never once seen the option to restrict selling items in player-owned shops to full stacks be useful or wanted.
It is probably for situations when the seller doesn't want its store to be clogged with leftovers because somebody bought 499 arrows out of 500.
This, as well as on occasion I will run a temp stall to get rid of extra items without partial stacks enabled. Buy 7 coal for 250 gold for example rather than each piece for 70 gold. Items move faster if they're cheaper but have to be bought in bulk sometimes.
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Re: 'Force Purchase of Full Stack' Option on Player-Owned Shops

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Void wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:15 pm It is probably for situations when the seller doesn't want its store to be clogged with leftovers because somebody bought 499 arrows out of 500.
What kind of monster would do such a thing?

I hadn't considered the points you guys brought up! Well, I'm still for making the 'sell by partial stacks' the default instead of the other way around unless anyone can convince me otherwise.

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Re: 'Force Purchase of Full Stack' Option on Player-Owned Shops

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I gotta say, I'm actually very much in favour of... well, if not making it the default, then at least making it far more obvious. I'll flag this to the team. It'd be a wonderful QoL change.
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Re: 'Force Purchase of Full Stack' Option on Player-Owned Shops

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Aradin wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:36 pm
Void wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:15 pm It is probably for situations when the seller doesn't want its store to be clogged with leftovers because somebody bought 499 arrows out of 500.
What kind of monster would do such a thing?
:mrgreen:
Well, they might also be 1 goldpiece short to buy the full stack. In case of full stack buying they'll run to the bank/merchant and return, and in case of partial stack, they might not come back to get the last arrow. A bit far-fetched, but still possible.
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Re: 'Force Purchase of Full Stack' Option on Player-Owned Shops

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My main issue is where the allow partial stacks option seems to be in an odd place. Think it was under faction options. If nothing else just putting it on the main page would help a lot.
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Well, to the veteran player it doesnt really matter. They can toggle it as they wish. For the new player, I think the default should be full stack purchase because that's more intuitive when you put something for sale in a cart for the first time and it can indeed be annoying when someone buys 9 out of your 10 kits when you thought you're selling them as one piece. Of course on the other way around, they can return to the cart and wonder why none of their 76 lesser restoration potions was sold. I still think the default should be full stack. As just said above. Putting that option anywhere not in the factions options would be an improvement on its own.
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I find it unlikely that someone hires a shop without having used another player shop beforehand. If they use another player stall it's likely they'll be looking at consumables before anything non-stackable.

I'm really not convinced that even a sizable minority of new players would expect to be selling anything other than partial stacks when they set up shop.
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Re: 'Force Purchase of Full Stack' Option on Player-Owned Shops

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The suggestion section of the forum is currently closed. If I recall the option might be worked on, but it's on a list of a lot of fixes still in the works.

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