Warlock / harbinger

[Jagel]

How does the class synergy between harbinger and warlock work?

The feat on the harbinger article seems to suggest heavy harbinger with a warlock dip while starpact’s hex synergy would suggest the opposite.

Is the combination viable or is it a bit of a trap?

[Biggrouse]

Warlock is a solid option for a 27 Harbinger's final three levels, absolutely not a trap.

Eldritch Patronage (the feat to scale with warlock) has some neat goodies, retains 30 CL, you gain the benefits of a minor pact which isn't insignificant, and you have access to practically all skills through Warlock if you've held your skillpoints. You'll get the level 28 benefits of Mortality Undone if you've taken that. Your eldritch blast is surprisingly strong due to the half scaling but probably not worth using over a cantrip or other ranged option.

I have no idea about a majority warlock with harbinger, at a glance I'm not really seeing any point to that.

[Sandrow]

All harbinger's multiclass options are focused on harbing's own abilities. For example, harbingers maintains full cl progression, and abilities that scale with harbinger levels. A deep harbinger with a dip warlock is good, with -yoink, tumbler and UMD.

However, half warlock with half harbinger sounds awful. All your warlock spells are of low cl that could be dispeled easily. Besides, you are sacrificing your weapon hex in return for a eldritch blast weaker than warlocks. Let alone these attractive harbinger feats. That's painful dude.

[malcolm_mountainslayer]

How does the class synergy between harbinger and warlock work?

The feat on the harbinger article seems to suggest heavy harbinger with a warlock dip while starpact’s hex synergy would suggest the opposite.

Is the combination viable or is it a bit of a trap?

its mostly for dips. I mean there is some memes i could drum up that I can't in good faith recommend nor can I recall the details as I been out of the game for a while.

[AstralUniverse]

As the post above me says, it's mostly for dips. Sure, there are some cool interactions, like harbinger scaling 1:4 lvls into warlock blast, but there's very little to actually do with that beyond memes. Do not look at Star pact's hex because it's the old hexblade's hex, it is not harbinger's dark claim, and it probably doesnt scale with anything except warlock level but I didnt bother checking because even if it did it wouldnt really matter build-wise and wouldnt open anything viable. Both classes generally want to go deep investment, and in warlock's case it wants to go pure 30 warlock 99% of the time, 1% bg dip. I cant think of any real valuable usage of harbinger within a deep warlock build, and I cannot think of a serious and viable use of warlock within a deep harbinger except when warlock serves as a tumble/umd dip with cl synergy like for example in my basic crimson beginner-friendly setup in the build-guides on discord. https://discord.com/channels/6518790256 ... 4097349652